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Thank you for clarifying! You want to compare the actual symbols, letters, and numbers used in the ciphers themselves (not the cryptographic method), and find out which ciphers share the same characters—using a direct, data-driven approach.

Here’s how I’ll proceed:

List the ciphers from the most famous cases (Zodiac, Beale, Debosnys, Voynich, etc.).

Identify the set of unique characters (letters, numbers, symbols) used in each cipher.

Compare these sets to show which ciphers share the most characters, and highlight any notable overlaps.

1. Character Sets in Famous Ciphers

Zodiac Killer Ciphers

Characters Used:

Uppercase English letters (A–Z)

Numbers (0–9)

Zodiac’s unique symbols (e.g., circles, crosshairs, triangles, squares)

Some punctuation (dots, slashes, etc.)

Beale Ciphers

Characters Used:

Numbers only (1–999, separated by spaces or commas)

Debosnys Cipher

Characters Used:

Custom symbols (over 100 unique, some resembling letters, some pictographic)

Some overlap with Latin alphabet, but mostly unique

Voynich Manuscript

Characters Used:

Unique script (20–30 unique glyphs, not matching any known alphabet)

Occasional Latin letters and numbers in marginalia

Dorabella Cipher

Characters Used:

24 unique curved symbols (no direct match to standard alphabet)

Copiale Cipher

Characters Used:

Latin letters (A–Z)

Greek letters

Special symbols (circles, dots, etc.)

Great Cipher

Characters Used:

Numbers (1–587, as code numbers)

Enigma, Purple, Lorenz Machines

Characters Used:

Uppercase English letters (A–Z)

No numbers or punctuation in standard use

Zimmermann Telegram

Characters Used:

Numbers (as code groups)

Occasional letters

Kryptos

Characters Used:

Uppercase English letters (A–Z)

Question mark (?)

No numbers

Cicada 3301

Characters Used:

All printable ASCII (letters, numbers, symbols), depending on the puzzle phase

2. Direct Character Overlaps

Most Common Shared Characters

Uppercase English Letters (A–Z):

Shared by: Zodiac, Copiale (partly), Enigma, Purple, Lorenz, Kryptos, Cicada 3301 (and marginalia in Voynich)

Numbers (0–9):

Shared by: Zodiac (some ciphers), Beale, Great Cipher, Zimmermann Telegram, Cicada 3301

Unique Symbols:

Zodiac, Debosnys, Dorabella, Copiale, Voynich (each has its own set, but some basic shapes—like circles or lines—appear in more than one)

Direct Overlaps Table

Cipher Letters Numbers Unique Symbols Notes

Zodiac ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ Letters, numbers, and custom symbols

Beale ✔️ Numbers only

Debosnys ✔️ Custom symbols, some letter-like

Voynich ✔️* ✔️* ✔️ Unique script, marginal Latin letters/numbers

Dorabella ✔️ Unique curved symbols

Copiale ✔️ ✔️ Latin, Greek, special symbols

Great Cipher ✔️ Numbers only

Enigma/Purple/Lorenz ✔️ Letters only

Zimmermann ✔️ Numbers as code groups

Kryptos ✔️ ✔️* Letters, question mark

Cicada 3301 ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ All ASCII, varies by puzzle

*Voynich marginalia only

3. Which Ciphers Share Which Characters?

Letters (A–Z)

Shared by: Zodiac, Copiale, Enigma, Purple, Lorenz, Kryptos, Cicada 3301, Voynich (marginalia)

Numbers (0–9)

Shared by: Zodiac, Beale, Great Cipher, Zimmermann Telegram, Cicada 3301, Voynich (marginalia)

Custom/Unique Symbols

Shared by: Zodiac, Debosnys, Dorabella, Copiale, Voynich, Cicada 3301 (in some puzzles)

Note: No two ciphers use exactly the same set of custom symbols, but some (e.g., circles, lines, dots) appear in more than one.

Summary Table: Character Overlap

Character Type Ciphers Sharing This Type

Letters (A–Z) Zodiac, Copiale, Enigma, Purple, Lorenz, Kryptos, Cicada 3301, Voynich (marginalia)

Numbers (0–9) Zodiac, Beale, Great Cipher, Zimmermann Telegram, Cicada 3301, Voynich (marginalia)

Unique Symbols Zodiac, Debosnys, Dorabella, Copiale, Voynich, Cicada 3301

If you want a specific letter/number/symbol-by-symbol comparison between two or more ciphers, or want to focus on a subset (like just the Zodiac and Debosnys), let me know!

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